Showing posts with label war. Show all posts
Showing posts with label war. Show all posts

Saturday, July 11, 2009

The Indo Pakistan War Part 4


September 25, 1965
(Following the Security Council's ultimatum, India accepted the cease-fire as of September 22.)
So you were right, in the end!
I was right ... on what?... Ah, your message to Delhi: "India must fight."
Yes.
Oh, they don't understand anything. It's a disgusting sight.
And as false as can be: they keep on fighting, only they are pretending not to.
They are all so pleased with what they've done, they are chortling with glee.
No, they're not pleased.
You think not?
Yes, I know!
It reminds me of 1939, Chamberlain coming back from Munich: "Peace in our time"!
Yes, exactly.
But at the U.N., they are chortling with glee, they're very proud of themselves [for the cease-fire]. But here, they aren't glad.
They are especially furious at Britain.[[The British government and press (the American press, too) have been outrageously anti-Indian.]]
Oh, those British ...
Yes, and they are going to leave the Commonwealth.
That would be a good thing.
(Laughing) Yes, and about time!
The Russians have called on Shastri and the Pakistan man [Ayub Khan] to meet in Russia [in Tashkent], and it seems they have agreed with the Americans (the Russians with the Americans) on permanently separating Britain from Pakistan and China from India. They want to take steps to permanently prevent China and Britain from intervening in affairs here. They have means of coercing them, it appears.
Naturally, if Russia and America join together ... So they have called Shastri and Ayub, and they are going - they are going there. So perhaps we are going to see something interesting.
The rapprochement between Russia and America is something I have been working on for years. I thought I had succeeded, when Kennedy was assassinated; and at the time, Khrushchev was well- disposed - both gone! One is assassinated, the other dismissed.
Now we'll see.
If nothing comes in the way, there may be something interesting.
But one doesn't see any solution other than military. The problem must be solved, mustn't it?
There could be the solution of Pakistan becoming a part of India again.
Yes, but that's not possible unless they are swallowed up.
They may come to it without being forced. This fellow [Ayub Khan] is impossible.
Oh, yes, he is impossible.
Yes, but he isn't immortal.
The mentality there will be hard to change. The Indians have missed the opportunity.
Yes. Ah, yes, this was the opportunity.
But it's not their fault: it's the fault of the United Nations; and the United Nations has acted from a single motive, because they were dreadfully scared of a general war - of course, this blocks the vision
.
We'll see.
But I believe in Kali, Mother. My only hope now is really in Kali: Kali's force striking. I can't imagine any other possibility.
(Silence) This man who is heading Pakistan doesn't represent the whole of Pakistan. There is a whole part of Pakistan that favors union with India.
Really?
A large part.
And there's nothing to say that if they feel protected, helped and supported, in fact by Russia and America, they won't push for reunion. With masses, you know, it's only a question of a current of thought: it's not reflection, not reasoning, just a current of thought.
I don't know, we shall see.

(Mother holds out a hibiscus to Satprem) Here is a monumental "Grace," there are almost two together.
(silence
)

Monday, July 6, 2009

Massive Intervention In 1965


What I felt strongly was that something had to erupt: it was too absurdly tense and devoid of truth.
I don't know if I told you that the day before it was known that it had really become a sort of war, the night before that, I had an experience that has occurred to me only two or three times in my life, always in similar circumstances. This time, I wasn't expecting anything, and in the night, there was in the TERRESTRIAL atmosphere, with a concentration on India, a sort of ... something I might call a "pressure of the Supreme." It's as if the Supreme's Consciousness were exerting a pressure, and it produces a certain type of stillness with a solidity and a consistency not found anywhere else. You know, it's even more solid and substantial than the most inert inertia. And it's the pressure of the Supreme Power. It's almost intolerable or unbearable for Matter, for material substance. And it goes like this (gesture of massive descent), absolutely impossible to budge, and at the same time you feel it's the Supreme Power. Well, it lasted for hours that night, and I was extremely attentive in order to know what it meant. And the next day, I was told things had all of a sudden broken out like a war: all that friction that had been there for ... years had suddenly taken that form.
So it is clearly a very exceptional intervention that has brought this about.
But while I was having the experience, there was absolutely no awareness of the goal, the motive, the purpose, nothing: it was like this (same massive gesture taking hold of everything), a sort of absolute, without explanation.
I've had this two or three times in my life, in the most serious terrestrial circumstances.
That's why; the next day, they told me what was going on and asked me what I felt; I simply answered, "It's serious."
It can only be serious.
Now ... "serious," what we could call serious is when it becomes global.
It seems that so far Pakistan has already called for help from three or four countries, which have refused. But the news ... I attach no importance to it because it is always falsified. For instance, when a country like Britain can decide to give her support, officially she will say, "We have nothing to do with your war." So it doesn't mean anything.
There.

Friday, May 22, 2009

The Birth Of Bangladesh Par1


Yes, "the urgent recognition...." That's the second note, the one of the fourth. "The urgent recognition of Bangla-Desh is imperative."[[The first version, the one of the third, read: India must recognize Bangla-Desh. This is urgent. ]]-THE MOTHER


Sunday, January 11, 2009

The End Of USA/Isreal Dominance?

USA needs $$ but who is going to lend to a bankrupt government that is ruled by financial crooks, the military-security complex, and the Jew Lobby?

January 11, 2009 The collapsing US economy Will the Government Turn to the Printing Press? http://www.vdare.com/roberts/090111_economy.htm
By Paul Craig Roberts According to the Bureau of Labor Statistics, nonfarm payroll employment declined by 3,445,000 from December 2007 through December 2008. The collapse in employment is across the board. Construction lost 520,000 jobs. Manufacturing lost 806,000 jobs. Trade, transportation and utilities lost 1,495,000 jobs (retail trade accounted for 1,120,000 of this loss). Financial activities lost 145,000 jobs. Professional and business services lost 713,000 jobs. Even government lost 188,000 jobs. Only in health care and social assistance has the economy been able to eke out a few new jobs. Many analysts believe the job losses will be as great or greater during 2009...read more

Who will save Israel from itself?
By Mark LeVine
The Israeli government's justifications for the war are being scrutinised GALLO/GETTY One by one the justifications given by Israel for its latest war in Gaza are unravelling. The argument that this is a purely defensive war, launched only after Hamas broke a six-month ceasefire has been challenged, not just by observers in the know such as Jimmy Carter, the former US president who helped facilitate the truce, but by centre-right Israeli intelligence think tanks. The Intelligence and Terrorism Information Center, whose December 31 report titled "Six Months of the Lull Arrangement Intelligence Report," confirmed that the June 19 truce was only "sporadically violated, and then not by Hamas but instead by ... "rogue terrorist organisations". Instead, "the escalation and erosion of the lull arrangement" occurred after Israel killed six Hamas members on November 4 without provocation and then placed the entire Strip under an even more intensive siege the next day...read more






"the 2othe century signalled the end of the british empre,and the 21st will be the end of uncle sam and isreal's dominance..and using war to kick start a dead economy wont work anymore(the wars in iraq and afghanistan are piling more debts and misery on the citizens)...these twin evil designs must and will come to an end..it's a question of sooner or later!!...btw,the citizens of iceland appear to be very calm people..and take note @10.22 of the aljazeera vid clip..she is right..this econimic metdown is a blessing in disgusie!.."