The Psychic Being Is The Supramental Being

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Then I said to myself (possibly it is always so, I do not know, but here I noticed it very clearly), I said to myself, "But it is the psychic being, it is that which will materialise itself and become the supramental being!"-THE MOTHER

July 1, 1970

(Satprem reads out the conversation of June 27 - "a very slight shift of consciousness" - which Mother thought could be used for the "Notes on the Way.")

Is that all? I said only this much?.... I thought I had said something interesting - it's not very interesting.

Yes, it is! There are lots of things in it!

There's always so much MORE than what can be read! I really felt I had said something, and now it seems like nothing at all!

When I read it aloud, it's not so good, but when you read it for yourself and go within a little, you clearly feel...

Yes, in YOUR case. But for one like you who reads like that, there are a thousand who read on the surface.

Not everyone!

Anyway ... It doesn't matter.

***

Soon afterwards

I had an experience which I found interesting, because it was the first time. It was yesterday or the day before (I forget), R. was here, just in front of me, kneeling, and I saw her psychic being towering above by this much (gesture about eight inches), taller. It's the first time. Her physical being was short, and the psychic being was tall, like this. And it was a sexless being: neither man nor woman. So I said to myself (it may be always that way, I don't know, but at that time I noticed it very clearly), I said to myself, "But the psychic being is the one that will materialize and become the supramental being!"
I saw it, it was like that. There were distinctive features, but not very pronounced, and it was clearly a being that was neither male nor female, that had features of both combined. And it was taller than her, it exceeded her on every side by about this much (gesture extending beyond the physical being by about eight inches). She was here, and it was like this (gesture). Its color was ... this color that, if it became very material, would be Auroville's color [orange]. It was softer, as if behind a veil, it wasn't absolutely precise, but it was this color. And there was hair, but ... it was something else.
Another time maybe I'll see better.
But I found it very interesting, because that being seemed to tell me, "You're wondering what the supramental being will be - here it is! Here it is, this is it." And it was there. It was her psychic being.
Then one understands. One understands: the psychic being will materialize ... and it gives a continuity to evolution.
This creation gives you a clear impression that nothing is arbitrary, that there is a sort of divine logic behind, which isn't like our human logic, but highly superior to our logic (but it exists), and that logic was fully satisfied when I saw that.
It's odd, it was also when R. was here that I had that experience of the supramental light going through within [Mother] without causing any shadow. [[See Agenda X of April 16 and May 3, 1969. ]] R. has something like that, I don't know.... And this time, it's really interesting. I was quite interested. It was there, tranquil, and saying to me, "But you're after ... well, here it is, this is it!"
So then, I understood why the mind and the vital were sent away from this body, and the psychic being was left (naturally, it was the psychic being that governed all movements earlier, so it was nothing new, but there were no more difficulties: all the complications coming from the vital and the mind, which add their imprints, their tendencies, it was all gone). So I understood: "Ah, that's it, it's this psychic being that is to become the supramental being."
I had never bothered to know what it looked like. But when I saw that, I understood. And I see it, I still see it, I have kept the memory. Its hair almost looked red, strangely (it wasn't like red hair, but it looked like it). And its expression! Such a fine expression, gently ironical ... oh, extraordinary, extraordinary!
You understand, my eyes were open, it was an almost material vision.
Then one understands! All at once, all questions vanished, it became very clear, very simple.

(silence)

And the psychic is precisely what lives on. So if it materialized, it means doing away with death. But "doing away" ... what's done away with is only what's not according to the Truth, that's what goes away - all that's incapable of being transformed in the image of the psychic, of being part of the psychic.
That's really interesting.

***

Do we have time for some Savitri?

Yes, Mother. In the last verses, Savitri said:

Let those who were tied to body and to mind,

Tear off those bonds and flee into white calm

Is it Savitri who says that?

Yes, Death told her one must leave one's body in order to find God's height....

(Mother translates the sequel)

But how shall I seek rest in endless peace

Who house the mighty Mother's violent force,

Her vision turned to read the enigmaed world,

Her will tempered in the blaze of Wisdom's sun

And the flaming silence of her heart of love?

The world is a spiritual paradox

Invented by a need in the Unseen,

A poor translation to the creatures sense

Of That which for ever exceeds idea and speech,

A symbol of what can never be symbolised,

A language mispronounced, misspelt, yet true....

Savitri, X.IV.647-648

Is there more?

Yes, there is more.

(those were the last line of the Debate of Love and Death Mother was to translate)

The Law Of Balance

"In this Day the Straight Path is made manifest, the Balance of divine justice is set and the light of the sun of His bounty is resplendent "...http://bahaiasheboro.blogspot.com/2010/05/in-this-day-straight-path-is-made.html

[Yusufali 55:7] And the Firmament has He raised high, and He has set up the Balance (of Justice)-The Quran

[Yusufali 55:9] So establish weight with justice and fall not short in the balance.-The Quran

Sri Aurobindo : ( kept silent for some time and then said) There is no such general law. The thing is that the Asura can’t keep balance. The law that demands balance then strikes.

Sri Aurobindo: There is a Greek saying that when one becomes too powerful he becomes insolent and commits excesses and then that strikes against the throne of God and then the retribution begins.
The leader of the former dominant party was not like that. He never lost sense of balance, and never pushed things too far. When his lieutenants asked him to arrest his political opponents he refused.

Disciple: Hitler also has a precipitous rise, he can’t maintain the momentum. He can’t last very long.
Sri Aurobindo: There is another famous Greek story about the tyrant of Syracuse. Do you know it?

Disciple: No.

Sri Aurobindo: This tyrant wanted to make friends with another tyrant of Sicily. Both belonged to Sicily. The latter replied: You are too fortunate. You must sacrifice something or have some little misfortune to compensate for your fortune, otherwise, I can’t ally myself with you. The tyrant of Syracuse – Polycrites – threw his most precious ring into the sea as a sacrifice to compensate for his fortune. The ring was swallowed by a fish and that fish caught by a fisherman who brought to him. He got back the ring. The other tyrant heard about it and said: You are too lucky. I shall never ally myself with you. Polycrites was afterwards killed by his people in revolt. “The ring of Polycrites” is a proverbial expression in English.
The Roman poet says: the Titans fall by their own mass. There is a similar idea in India when it is said: the Asuras are too heavy for the earth to bear their weight. But some Asuras are clever enough to flourish in spite of proverbs
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Disciple: Can it be said that the Asuras by their action contradict the law of evolution or that they contradict something fundamental in human nature?

Sri Aurobindo : ( kept silent for some time and then said) There is no such general law. The thing is that the Asura can’t keep balance. The law that demands balance then strikes.
note:”asura” means beings of falsehood

Source:Purani A. B.
Evening Talks with Sri Aurobindo
The Third Series

12th January 2013:Vivekananda's 150th Birth Anniversary

TO commemorate the 150th birth anniversary of Swami Vivekananda (1863-2013), Ramakrishna Mission Malaysia observed the release of the ‘Arise, Awake!’ postal stamp on Aug 2.

The stamp takes inspiration from the holy man’s famous quote “Arise, Awake! Stop not till the goal is reached”.

Centre president Swami Supriyananda said with the release of the stamp by Pos Malaysia, the mission was gearing up to celebrate Vivekananda’s 150 years in a fit and proper manner appropriate to his universally respected stature as a world teacher, thinker, leader, prophet, pathfinder and humanity benefactor.

In line with that, a series of Personality Development programmes for youths through Vivekananda’s life and message are being planned for two years, 2012 and 2013, all over Malaysia.

Supriyananda said the mission had lined up the set of programmes to help them with inner confidence and character.

“The half-day free programmes will be starting next month, and they will focus on physical, mental and spiritual health. We go to gyms to develop the body, and to temples to perform rituals, but a positive mentality also needs to be built. When you build character, you have everything,” he said after the event held at the mission’s centre in Petaling Jaya.

Also present at the event were Ramakrishna Mission, Belue Math, India general secretary Swami Prabhananda, and Toh Puan Uma Sambanthan.

Total And Integral Consecration

"This is one of the things I've learned lately through experience - universalization, the contact with everything (horizontal gesture) - and it has been shown to the body in such a precise way, in the detail of the vibration.... In the state of receptivity (vertical gesture to the Heights), of receptive passivity (the opposite of action, that is), the body must be turned exclusively to the Supreme (same vertical gesture): the body and the cells have been taught that, and they've understood - they've understood and are now used to it. In the state of action (horizontal gesture), when you are one with (well, let's limit the problem to the earth), one with the whole earth, there must be an ACTIVE radiating vibration of the supreme Force. Receptivity like this (vertical gesture to receive the Force), and activity like this (horizontal gesture spreading the Force out). And the cells have felt, they've understood, they can do it. And the relationship with everything around you, down to the smallest detail, is something so wonderful, with an influence radiating farther and farther away."-THE MOTHER

December 6, 1967

I saw you last night.

Oh, yes?

Do you remember?...

No.

We were in the subtle physical. I saw lots of people: Purani [a departed disciple] and so on, people who are no longer on earth. It was in Sri Aurobindo's ... not his house, but his domain. I saw and did lots of things. There were people who live on earth and people who no longer do: they were all together. And at the end (for many details Sri Aurobindo was there, then he left), at the end I looked at all that, and for the first time in the subtle physical, I said, "Oh, how insipid and useless your life is, and flavorless, when you don't think of the Divine."
The experience was so acute! So acute. Then I said (among the people there, there was Purani, and as I said people who live on earth), I told them, "On the earth, there is that intensity of aspiration, but here ... life is so easy, so easy! Look at all your activities and all that, oh, it has no flavor, because there isn't that intense need to live for the Divine." And it was so strong that for hours in the morning it was like that (gesture of intense aspiration). Life anywhere - anywhere, in any part of the world (of the universe) and in any conditions, even the most easy and harmonious, is not worth living without this intensity of aspiration, of the NEED to be divine.
It's the first time.
In the past, when I went to all those regions, there were always very interesting things; and in the subtle physical, as a rule I was always with Sri Aurobindo - [last night too] I was with Sri Aurobindo but he withdrew to a part of his domain and I remained with all the others: they had an easy life, you know, carefree, and all they did seemed so ... meaningless. Why? Why all that, why keep oneself busy, why do all those things if it's not for this aspiration, for this need to be and become the Divine?
But it's the first time, and it lingered on: for hours this morning, I was like this (gesture of intense aspiration).
There.
As a result, my impression was that unless the whole universe becomes THAT, well ... what's the use? Everything and anything that isn't the Consciousness, the supreme consciousness, I mean, yes, the supreme and supremely divine consciousness, all the rest ... It's the first time I've felt so intensely the uselessness of all outward activities - their uselessness IN THEMSELVES, like a blossoming, because when there is the divine Play, then the same things become lovely, it all becomes interesting, but in themselves, for themselves, they are NOTHING. It's the first time I have felt that so intensely. Because I felt it in the subtle world (in the material world it's always mixed with all kinds of trouble and effort and difficulty so it's completely different), there, things are absolutely without difficulty, completely harmonious, really, and it was NOTHING. YOU understand, when Sri Aurobindo was there, it was perfect, but when he withdrew ... flavorless.
And it's the PHYSICAL consciousness that has those experiences at night: the body remains in trance, it's the physical consciousness; it was the physical consciousness, but in a subtle physical released from all difficulties - and it was no better. You know, it was like a reply to the ambition of people here on earth who want life to be pleasant, easy, without difficulties, without conflicts and clashes and diseases and ... they say, "Oh, how charming all would be!" - It's not true: if there isn't THAT, empty.
The experience was very interesting.

***

Soon afterwards
I have a whole correspondence in French with S., who is learning French and puts questions to me. So (Mother shows a sheet of paper), here is the latest one, from yesterday, because I had told him a story:
You know that I always keep a Transformation flower here (Mother points to her buttonhole); I keep it the whole morning, and when I take my dress off in the afternoon for a bath, the flower is naturally in a pitiful condition - so I used to throw it away. But one day, S. had sent me roses in a glass of water, it was on my bathroom table; I took the Transformation flower and put it in the water, and when I came back from my bath it was magnificent, far more fresh and strong than when I had received it! I kept it the whole night, kept it the next day, it wasn't budging! It remained just as fresh. Then the next day, I sent him the flower back, in his glass, and when he came to see me in the afternoon, I told him the story. I said, "Did you get the Transformation flower? Here is what happened...." The next day, he wrote me this:

"Does the transformation not demand a very high degree of aspiration, surrender and receptivity?"

I replied:
"The transformation demands a total and integral consecration. But is that not the aspiration of every sincere sadhak?
"'Total' means ...
Yes, it was on the following page (because I thought, "This man will wonder why I put 'total and integral' when the two words seem to mean just the same thing"). So I gave him the explanation:
"'Total' means VERTICALLY in all the states of being from the most material to the most subtle. 'Integral' means HORIZONTALLY in all the various and often contradictory parts that make up the outer being (physical, vital and mental)."

***

(Then Mother listens to new, unpublished letters of Sri Aurobindo's:)

"How can I receive Sri Aurobindo's light in the mind?"

"It can always come if you aspire patiently. But the basic condition, if you want that light, is to get rid of all other mental influences."

"What is the meaning of 'to get rid of all other mental influences'? Is it this that I had better not read any other books except Sri Aurobindo's or not try to learn anything by hearing or admiring others?"

"It is not a question of books or learning facts. When a woman loves or admires, her mind is instinctively molded by the one she loves or admires, and this influence remains after the feeling itself has gone or appears to be gone. This does not refer to X's influence merely. It is the general rule given to keep yourself free from any other admiration or influence."

May 30, 1932

This is something people generally don't know. It's very true, but they don't know it. When they start admiring all sorts of things, it becomes a hodgepodge.

(silence)

This is one of the things I've learned lately through experience - universalization, the contact with everything (horizontal gesture) - and it has been shown to the body in such a precise way, in the detail of the vibration.... In the state of receptivity (vertical gesture to the Heights), of receptive passivity (the opposite of action, that is), the body must be turned exclusively to the Supreme (same vertical gesture): the body and the cells have been taught that, and they've understood - they've understood and are now used to it. In the state of action (horizontal gesture), when you are one with (well, let's limit the problem to the earth), one with the whole earth, there must be an ACTIVE radiating vibration of the supreme Force. Receptivity like this (vertical gesture to receive the Force), and activity like this (horizontal gesture spreading the Force out). And the cells have felt, they've understood, they can do it. And the relationship with everything around you, down to the smallest detail, is something so wonderful, with an influence radiating farther and farther away.
When you realize those two attitudes simultaneously, the contagion is abolished: the mental contagion (the very one Sri Aurobindo refers to here, the one you get when you "admire" something), the mental contagion, the vital contagion, and EVEN THE PHYSICAL CONTAGION - when the cells realize that, you stop catching illnesses. Because formerly (for a long time), whenever something occurred in the sphere of influence of the action, there used to be a repercussion [in Mother]. For a very long time, it was dangerous. Then it became limited to a sense of unease which would grow conscious, and conscious of the why - the why and the how. It was limited to a state of unease, but it was still ... troublesome. And now it's a sort of ... I can't say "knowledge," because it's not mental, but an awareness (there's no word for it in French), a perception - and nothing more, it doesn't have any action [or any repercussion in Mother's body]. So then, the whole problem lies there:
There are those who found this, the vertical ascent to the heights, and who isolated themselves from the world (they weren't able to do that completely because they didn't have the knowledge, but they tried). That's not the solution. Then there are those who want to help, the generous ones who are like this (gesture of horizontal expansion), and who catch everything, even the mental diseases of all the people around them. So the truth is the two together: this, the passive, receptive state (vertical gesture), and this, the active state of action and radiating influence (horizontal gesture). And the body has become wholly conscious of the dual movement and is working to realize it in detail.
A great problem has been solved.
And it's interesting because those two attitudes can be almost simultaneous, but they are ... On the level of vibration, of vibratory sensation, they are two opposites combining with each other: receptivity like this (gesture), towards the Consciousness, the Force, Power, Light, all that comes from above, and naturally Love (but about Love I will speak later). And it comes (gesture of descent), it comes down and everything, everything is ab-so-lute-ly passive and receptive (gesture of vertical opening): it absorbs and absorbs and absorbs, like that, totally given, in the state of a sponge that absorbs and absorbs and absorbs.... At the same time, there is the relationship with the world (horizontal gesture) and the Power coming through and working, with the sense of the Force, the Action, the Thing imposing itself. It's magnificent. And in the SAME vibratory radiance of ... of "That." Always the same all-powerful Perfection being absorbed and acting (gesture of flowing through Mother over the world in a perpetual movement).
That seems to be the secret of all-powerfulness. There is no need at all to go through mental knowledge - that diminishes, shrinks, hardens.
It's a keen state of consciousness, that is, wholly awakened. In the cells of the body, it drives away all darkness. Naturally, it's a long and slow work, but it drives away, it's a state that drives away all darkness everywhere. And darkness is always the sign (sign or cause) of a disorder. So there is still plenty of it, one knows that. It's a slow work, a whole world! When you ... (how should I put it?) when you descend into (or I may say, concentrate on) this cellular constitution of the body, on the body's scale, it's a myriad world! A myriad world. Everything is as though made up of myriad tiny points, and each point has to be awakened and flooded with consciousness and light - a long work.

(silence)

So it's the solution to these two errors that constantly contradict each other: the error of shrinking, of an exclusivism of influence (which, when practiced on the mental level, becomes a limitation, a smallness, like all exclusive faiths); or else eclecticism without effect or force, which makes a sort of muddle with everything, with all ideas (mentally it doesn't matter, but on the level of the transformation, it's serious). So for these two opposites the problem has been solved.
The state I've just described is possible in the body's cells and in the body consciousness, also in the psychic consciousness; but vitally and mentally, even if you understand, it seems like an almost impossible realization because of a fixity, a fixity in the form: the form of thoughts and the form of sensations. Mentally it could only be translated as an acceptance of all thoughts, all formulas, raising them up towards ... something that's no longer a thought, no longer a mentally formulated thing, but a light, a light, a conscious light organizing and unifying all those thoughts. But if you take them all on the same plane ... You can accept everything, but everything as one standpoint - one among innumerable standpoints on "something" that cannot be expressed in words, because as soon as you put words on it, it becomes a formula, and the formula takes the power away. But physically, in the body's cells, it's very, very clearly perceptible and is lived quite spontaneously: you receive only from on high, and you spread it.

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The Smiling Lord Is Everywhere

"(After a silence) I can't say (it's inexpressible), it was something that contained horror, dread, sorrow - and a compassion, oh, intense! ... Never, never had the body felt things like that. Besides, that put it in a rather ... critical state for a few hours. Afterwards, it was as if everything, everything came-every single thing-with a Smile and a resplendent Light; as if (to put it into children's words), as if the Lord were saying, "See, I am everywhere. See, I am in all things." It was unbelievable- unbelievable .... But there's no communication between the two". =THE MOTHER

May 31, 1969

How are your nights? ... The same? Still the same?

(Satprem grimaces)

Two nights ago, I spent more than three hours with Sri Aurobindo, and I showed him all that was going to descend for Auroville. It was rather interesting. There were games, there was art, there was even cooking! But all that was very symbolic. I explained it to him as if on a table, in front of a large landscape; I explained the principle on whose basis physical exercises and games were going to be organized. It was very clear, very precise, I even did a demonstration, as if showing him on a very small scale: a representation on a very small scale of what was going to be done. I moved people, things ... (gesture as if on a chessboard). But it was very interesting, and he was interested: he gave kinds of broad laws of organization (I don't know how to explain). <202>
There was art and it was lovely, it was fine. And how to make houses pleasant and beautiful, with what principle of construction. And cooking too, it was very amusing! There were the different manners of presenting a dish; take a fish, for instance, with the different ways of preparing it, and everyone came with his own invention .... It went on for more than three hours (three hours of the night, that's huge). I woke up at 4 o'clock with that (4 o'clock, and I had gone back to bed at I o'clock: I to 4 is three hours - I can still calculate!). Very interesting.

Yet the conditions on earth seem very far from all that ....

No ... It was just there, it didn't seem "foreign" to the earth. It was a harmony A conscious harmony behind things: a conscious harmony behind physical exercises and games; a conscious harmony behind decoration and art; a conscious harmony behind food ...

I mean that all this looks poles apart from what is now on earth.

Not ...

No?

Today was Y's birthday She came, and (smiling) started telling me that the latest scientific discoveries are "absolutely wonderful," that they have found how thoughts are formed and travel from one person to another ... (Mother laughs). I couldn't help telling her, "Yes, that's what yogis already knew!"

Well, indeed. Really!

And she also told me that animal psychology can lead us to the knowledge of the superman's psychology.

Good.

There's something true there .... But anyway, it's ...

It's seen from below.

So I told her that the whole artistic, athletic, even culinary organizations, and all others, are ready in the subtle physical - ready to descend and incarnate-and I said, "All that is needed is a little soil <203>
(gesture in the hollow of the hand), a little soil to let the plant grow ...." I said that to her, "I am telling you because we have to find a little soil to let it grow ...." I don't know if she understood!

(silence)

I don't know if this perception is correct, but for several months I have felt that the earth has never been in such darkness. I have a sense of a tremendous darkness.

Yes, yes. But both are there. It's true. A CONFUSION-it's a confusion - a dark confusion, yes. A dark confusion, but that's what Sri Aurobindo always said: the confusion becomes much more intense and dark just when the light is to come. That's correct. It looks like a dark chaos. And especially in this country ... terrible, oh, unbelievable things. It's because serious people said them to me (they aren't newspaper gossip) that I am obliged to believe them. There are really dreadful things going on in the government and in the organization - dreadful. Unbelievable. And the Chinese ...

But Mother, do you know in the West, the influential books (not only influential, they're read and devoured by all the young) are those of Mao Tse-tung?

Of ...?

Mao Tse-tung.

What's that?

... He's the great Chinese, the great Chinese mandarin-Mao Tse-tung.

And what does he say, that man?

That man ... says that "Power flows from the barrel of a gun.

(Mother remains silent)

That's what they read in the West. And the latest bestseller is a book titled something like "The Wretched," which is an apology of violence: "Power must be seized through violence." That's what <204> is successful in the West, what all the students are devouring. [[The book is The Wretched of the Earth by Franz Fanon, whose central theme is "Violence alone pays" (quoted in The Indian Express of May 30). An extract: "The practice of violence binds men together as a whole, since each individual forms a violent link in the great chain, a part of the great organism of violence which has surged upward." The book is prefaced by Jean-Paul Sartre, who says even more explicitly, "Irrepressible violence ... is man recreating himself." It is "mad fury" through which "the wretched of the earth" can "become men." "To shoot down a European is to kill two birds with one stone ... there remains a dead man and a free man." ]]

Oh, an apology of violence ...

A gospel of violence.

That's the vital in full swing.

Yes.

Ooh! That explains all the visions I've had. I thought ... I put the blame on my body, thinking this poor body has an unfortunate atavism: constantly dreadful, frightful imaginations - but they weren't imaginations, it was conscious of what was going on .... Oh! ...
Oh, what you're telling me is very interesting, because yesterday (these last few days, these last three days), faced with the horror of the perception of things, this body (which is quite the opposite of sentimental, it's never, never been sentimental) started weeping .... It didn't weep materially, but it was ... And with an inner intensity, it said, "Oh, why does this world exist?" Like that, it was so ... awful, sad, miserable ... so miserable and ... so horrible, you know, oh! ... But it instantly gets the Response- not a response with words, it's simply ... like an immensity opening in the Light. Then, there's nothing more to say.
But how can That, that immensity, become this? ... I don't know. The question is, "How did That become this? ..." That's how it came: "How could That, the Wonder, become this-this hideous, monstrous thing?"
But the process to change this back into That is what I don't know ... The process is ... abdication (what word should we use?), self-giving (that's not it). But the body felt everything, everything to be so ... horrible. There was a very, very difficult day. [[On Thursday 29th May. On the 30th, too, mother received no one. This is probably the course of experience that began a little before Pavitra's departure (see conversation of May 17). ]] <205>
And curiously, I knew at that time that it was the exact repetition of the experience Buddha Siddhartha had, and that it was IN this experience that he said, "There is only one way out: Nirvana." And at the SAME TIME, I had the true state of consciousness: his solution and the true one. That was really interesting. How the Buddhistic solution is only ONE step taken on the path-one step. And BEYOND that (not on another path, but BEYOND that) is where the true solution lies. It was a decisive experience.

(long silence)

But what's this creation? ... You know, separation, then wickedness, cruelty (the thirst to cause harm, we might say), then suffering, again the joy of causing suffering, and then all disease, decomposition, death - destruction. (All that is part of a single thing.) What happened? ... The experience I had was the UNREALITY of those things, as though we had stepped into an unreal falsehood, and when you step out of it, everything vanishes - it DOES NOT exist, it isn't. That's what is frightful! What to us is so real, so concrete, so dreadful, all that does not exist. It's ... stepping into Falsehood. Why? How? What? ...
But never, never in this body's whole, entire existence, not once - not once - has it felt such a ... total and profound sorrow as on that day ... Oh, something that made it ... (Mother has a lump in her throat). And at the end of it all, Bliss. And then, pfft! it faded away, as if to say, "Not yet, not yet, the time hasn't come yet." But as if all this, which is so awful, did not exist.
After all, it's probably ... probably only on the earth (that I don't know). It doesn't seem to be like that, because for the moon, it's very concretely a sense of devastation. Anyway, there's nevertheless a very strong, very concrete sensation that what's like that, in this Falsehood, is something limited. And unreal. And that we are all in Falsehood and Unreality - that's why things are as they are. And the interesting point was that that escape into Nirvana wasn't the solution, it was only a remedy - a remedy for a time (how can I explain? I don't know) ... a partial remedy. A partial and, we might almost say, momentary remedy.
So that's a paroxysm at a certain point. Afterwards comes the long path: one must go on and on with the PROGRESSIVE work of transformation. Then, the next minute, there is what Sri Aurobindo called the supramental being. It's like the transition from the one towards the other. <206>
But how will all this change? I don't know.

Yes, the other day, I had a perception (I don't have the gift of vision), but such a concrete perception, that the earth was as if beneath a black cloak-what you call Falsehood or Illusion. It was something COVERING the earth.

Yes, yes.

I felt that, but very concretely: a black coat.

Yes, exactly

Only, it would have to be pulled back FOR EVERYONE.

(After a silence) I can't say (it's inexpressible), it was something that contained horror, dread, sorrow - and a compassion, oh, intense! ... Never, never had the body felt things like that. Besides, that put it in a rather ... critical state for a few hours. Afterwards, it was as if everything, everything came-every single thing-with a Smile and a resplendent Light; as if (to put it into children's words), as if the Lord were saying, "See, I am everywhere. See, I am in all things." It was unbelievable- unbelievable .... But there's no communication between the two.
You understand, that was when the body said, "What? Shall we have to go on and on with that? Must we ... go on and on with that? The world, people, the whole creation - go on and on with that? ..." It seemed ... I suddenly understood: "Ah! That's what they expressed as 'perpetual hell'." That's it. It was someone who had that perception.
And all the methods - which we may call artificial, Nirvana included-all the methods to get out of it are worthless. Beginning with the fool who kills himself to "Put an end" to his life: that's ... of all stupidities, that one is the biggest, it makes his case still worse. From that up to Nirvana (where one imagines one can get out of it), all of it, all of it is worth NOTHING. Those are different stages, but they're worth NOTHING. And then, after that, when you really have a sense of perpetual hell, all of a sudden ... (nothing but a state of consciousness, it's nothing but that), all of a sudden, a state of consciousness ... in which all is light, splendor, beauty, happiness, goodness .... And all that is inexpressible. It comes like that: "Oh, here it is," and then pfft! It shows itself, and hop! it's <207> gone. Then the Consciousness, which sees, imposes itself, and says, "Now, the next step." So it's in the presence of all this that the body had ... never, never in its whole life had it felt such a sorrow, and even now ... (Mother touches her heart).
Is this, is this the lever? ... I don't know. But salvation is PHYSICAL -not at all mental, but PHYSICAL. I mean it's not in escape: it's ... HERE. That I felt very strongly.
But the body had a few very difficult hours. And to it, that's always indifferent, it says, "All right," it's fully ready for dissolution or ... There was no question of that; there was no question of that, the question was to ... know how to receive the Cure. And what is the Cure like? - Inexpressible with our means.
But it's not that it's veiled or hidden or anything: it's HERE. Why? What in the whole deprives you of the power to live THAT? I don't know. It's here, HERE! All the rest, including death and everything, really becomes a falsehood, that is to say, something that does not exist.

Yes, it's a cloak that has to be drawn back.

If it were only that, it would be nothing!

No, I mean that all this Illusion is like a cloak to be drawn back off the earth.

Yes, that's it. But of course, that's it! But is it only off the earth? I don't know ... They're going tip there to find out!
All I know, the impression I have, is that it's concentrated here. The concentration is here, the work is here. But it may be ... the whole solar system, I don't know.

(silence)

But one can't get out all alone.

Of course! ... Mother, the other day you said something. You said, "The time has come to take one's stand." You said, "The body has taken its stand," but you didn't dare urge others to do it, and you added, "Now the time has come to take one's stand."

Yes, I think so.

But what do you mean by "taking one's stand"? <208>

This, the awareness the body now has that all this is unreal.
If you asked the body, it would say, I don't know if I am alive, I don't know if I am dead." Because that's really how it is. For a few minutes it absolutely has the feeling of being dead; at other times, it has the feeling of being alive. The body is like that. And it feels that exclusively depends on ... whether the Truth is perceived or not.

(silence)

What does it depend on? ...

(silence)

According to what others say or write or experience, I have seen that what the vast majority of humanity fears the most is this perception of the Falsehood of it all, and all that leads to it. I know people (they've written to me) who just these last few days have had terrible frights, because all of a sudden they were forcibly seized, something was beginning to touch them: the perception of the unreality of life. So that shows the immensity of the path still ahead. Which means that any hope of a solution near at hand seems childishness. Unless ... things take place differently.
If things must follow the movement they've followed till now ... How many centuries and centuries and centuries there have been .... So the superman would only be one more stage, and after him there would be many other more things ....

Every time I think of that, I always get the impression that the only solution is for you to have a glorified body, visible to all. Then everyone would come and see-come and see what the Divine is like!

(Mother laughs a lot) That would be quite convenient!

It would so much upset all their notions ....

Yes, of course! That would be really convenient. Will it be like that? ... That's for sure, I wholly agree! And I would be very happy if it were anyone, I don't have the least desire that it should be mine!

Come and see what the Divine is like! <209>

Yes, what it's like! (Mother laughs)
Oh, you should write that ....
Write it, write that.

(Mother remains "gazing" for a long time, with an unbelievable expression. The clock strikes .... <210>

Purusha,Prakriti And Beyond

Disciple: What is the characteristic of the Purusha on each plane of being – the physical, the vital and the mental – looking at the world?

Sri Aurobindo: The Purusha looks at the world as Prakriti i.e. Nature, represents it to be. On the mental plane Prakriti represents thoughts, ideas – in short, all mental movements. On the vital plane Prakriti represents itself as desires – in short, as action of the vital force. On the physical plane it represents itself as the unchangeable law of physical life.

Disciple: When the Purusha separates itself from Prakriti, how is it possible for it to aspire for something higher?

Sri Aurobindo: It is not the Purusha but the Prakriti which has to be made to aspire and made fit. The Purusha is silent, passive, looking at Prakriti.

Disciple: What is the characteristic way of Purusha looking at the world from the Supermind?

Sri Aurobindo: The Supramental Purusha looks at the world as the Truth looks at it.

Disciple: how does the Truth look at the world?

Sri Aurobindo: (with a gesture of hand pointing up): You get up there and you will see.

Disciple: In the Taittiriya Upanishad the following pa occurs: "Vijnana extends the sacrifice – what is its head; delight is its right side; great delight the left side; bliss, the body; Brahman the lower the foundation". 

Sri Aurobindo: Here puccham – "tail" –-means the basis. It means the basis of ānanda (bliss) Infinite, the Brahman. 

Disciple: Further it says: "By that this is filled; its head; Truth of movement the right side of being the left side; union, the body; the great plane the lower part, – the foundation".

Sri Aurobindo: It means if you want to rise to the Supermind you have to attain the mahas – the wide, infinite and universal consciousness which is its basis: Ritam means "Truth of movement". Satyam is "Truth of being" śraddhā is the acceptance of the Truth when it is there. 

Disciple: When the Truth is there present on the Supra-mental level, why is śraddhā – faith – required?

Sri Aurobindo: śhraddha here means that when you see the Truth, you are ready to accept it. "Yoga Atma" means that the lower being has to attain the union with the higher being in order to go up to the level higher than the Mind. 

Disciple: About the prānāmaya also it speaks and adds that it is fulfilled by it. 

Sri Aurobindo: It says that the mental – manomaya – is higher than the vital and is fulfilled by it.

Disciple: It also says "yajnas is the head; the rk is the right side; saman is the left side; command is the soul; atharva-angirasa is the end and foundation".

Sri Aurobindo: Rik means the intuitive movement in the mind; saman is "the rhythm of the movement and harmony.” Atharva means "the effective action of the physical plane". Angirasa, in the Veda at least, means the power of Agni which releases the cows – the Light – from the cave of darkness of the panis with the help of the Word and Indra and the other gods.

Disciple: There is a description of the vital and its function.

Sri Aurobindo: Yes, vyān is the right side; apān is the left side; akāśa is ātmā. It may refer to the vital ether and Prathwi puccham pratiśthā clearly means that the vital is based on and looks from above upon the physical.

Disciple: Does the Christian Trinity correspond to Brahma. Vishnu and Shiva?

Sri Aurobindo: No. The Indian trinity refers to cosmic powers which preside over certain movements in the universe Brahma-creative etc. "Son" in the Christian Trinity means perhaps the "Divine in man". "Holy Ghost" symbolises the "Divine Consciousness".

Sri Aurbindo on the 3  Purushas

Darshan Day:24th Novembar,2012